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Matt Orsagh's avatar

Agree Jack. I recommend everyone read Peter Victor's "Overshoot" and have a better understanding of ecological economics. I'll be writing more about that 40%. Let me know if there is anything I haven't touched on that you want me to discuss.

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Jack Santa Barbara's avatar

Great. The points you make about the costs of CC not being factored in to pricing also applies to all the other negative throughputs in the economy. By keeping the focus on ecological overshoot we can simultaneously address CC, biodiversity loss and extensive pollution. Degrowth is about reducing throughput overall to a sustainable steady state. The biosphere is an integrated unit. It is only our reductionist conceptualization of nature as separate climate, biodiversity and pollution systems, that forces us to think in terms of what we see as discreet risks. They are all part of the same basic dynamic - overshoot. The overshoot perspective seems so fundamental to me that it deserves considerably more attention. Such a perspective will determine how we respond to what we see as discreet threats. No point in "solving" CC and making biodiversity loss and pollution worse ( the course we are currently on)

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