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Margi Prideaux, PhD's avatar

Wouldn't it be revolutionary if it were to come to pass! What is remarkable is that this is all written, in beautiful detail, in so many places, but none of it implemented, EVER.

Despite my rusted on pessimism about the world, I am grateful you keep drawing our attention the fact there is a clear path to follow. The thinking has been done. We just have to start the journey. We can tweak it as we go.

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Jan Steinman's avatar

Nice platitudes. I give them 0.005% chance.

The wealthy are not going to just give up the control of government that they've worked hard to purchase. As long as the highest form of so-called "democracy" is "voting," nothing is going to change.

Voting is short-term oriented. While the Club of Rome is asking for 3% to 4% to ameliorate our damage to the very habitat that allows us to live, your average voter is going to say, "I can't afford 3% to 4% more!" And the moneyed interests are all to willing to promote that message.

Right now, in Canada, the servants of the moneyed interest are screaming "AXE THE TAX!" about a carbon tax that is re-distributed to the lowest 50% of wage-earners. And they're sucking it up, the fools! Then, after the moneyed interests get elected, they'll say, "Hey, what happened to that $1,800 check I used to get every year?"

What I didn't see on that list was anything about social engineering. How will these changes be accepted by rich and poor alike?

Voting won't get us there. What is needed is sortition, or government office by random selection, similar to jury duty. That is much closer to "government by the people." Then, we need an ethic common in certain indigenous people: hold a big party every year, where those who are doing the best are expected to give it all away.

I just don't see the sort of societal changes necessary happening in a practical time-window. Government is just too big and too easily subverted and perverted. Instead, such changes will have to wait for post-crash times.

Rather, I think small groups of consenting people could do this at the community level. These small groups will have to be self-supporting in the larger scheme, and egalitarian from within.

But these "communities" are not the communities that Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates live in.

In a world of declining energy resources, things are about to re-localize. If your community feeds itself and keeps a low profile, Elon, Mark, and Bill won't even know you exist, once the electricity goes out.

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