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Matt Orsagh's avatar

I get where you are coming from, and no doubt many will frame this as austerity.

I am arguing for reframing how to look at our wants and needs. Take the beef example. You can still have all the hamburgers you want, but society as a whole won't if we agree as a society that we shouldn't eat beef at this level.

If we say, "this isn't working, let's change it" - yes, things will change. We seeing something as "austerity" means to that person "I have to have this, and it is being taken away." But you don't need a hamburger. It is a want.

Our needs as a society can largely be taken care of. Satisfying all of our wants, even when it is destroying us, isn't healthy. You can call stopping that austerity, but the assumption behind that is that all of our wants are really our needs.

They aren't.

This is a large and long culture change for people, but in the end it gets down to - "want less - you will be happier." This isn't some hippy commune crap, but based on the science of what makes people happy and fulfilled. Overconsumption isn't it - but we are still on that path. Let's step off it. It won't happen in one day, but can over time.

Over time that won't be seen as austerity, but as, our society doesn't do things that way anymore.

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Geoffrey Deihl's avatar

Good job communicating the basics of degrowth without overwhelming people. The concept is also dependent on raising incomes in the global south and reducing them in the global north. This is highly dependent on dismantling billionaire wealth. The ideas of degrowth are sound. The political and behavioral impediments, however, are profound. Even progressives don't talk about degrowth. For any chance at all, Trump and Project 2025 must be stopped in November.

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