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Openly Fae's avatar

Make it popular with the young generation. Get the message out in a two minute clip because they have TikTok attention spans. Call it the Save Yourself Challenge or something. Convince people to join any ot every foundation for saving the planet so they get news. Push for killing off the fossil fuel industry as much as possible. Never vote for Republicans or let them run uncontested. What's Greta doing these days? Bet she has a whole list ten times this long.

But I've got more too. I am totally down for people giving a damn.

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Jack Santa Barbara's avatar

yes, ecological overshoot is the core dynamic. And yes, ecological economics is a very useful reformulation of economic theory that, if adopted, would move us in the right direction. But ecological economics is vastly different from environmental economics, and they should not be confused. Environmental economics is a branch of neoclassical economics that basically attempts to internalize costs that are otherwise externalized. While this might sound like a good idea, it has some serious problems. It does nothing to stop the externalized costs from occurring in the first place. And it would require an army of accountants to track and costs just those externalities we are aware of. But in many cases we arent aware of the externalities until they are causing a problem we can't avoid. Ecological economics is a major reconceptualization of basic economic theory that is based on both science and ethics - two perspectives our current system ignores. It seeks to prevent externalities in the first place. An excellent introduction to ecological economic concepts is Peter Victor's book https://wiseresponse.org.nz/2022/05/11/book-review-herman-dalys-economics-for-a-full-world-his-life-and-ideas/ Ecological economics provides a basic description of the steady state economy that degrowth is the path toward - essential reading for anyone committed to degrowth.

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