This is cute and funny, but I just want to note that what T's administration may be ushering in is recession, not degrowth. I think it's important to make that distinction because one of the straw men raised against degrowth is that it favors austerity/scarcity/want/hardship. It doesn't; that's the growth/capitalist economy. (Just to clarify for readers who might not know this distinction.)
Thanks for the comment Arwen. I plan to go into that in detail on Thursday. You are correct, a recession isn't degrowth, but I got the idea for this conversation between the snail and the orange and ran with it.
“An equitable downscaling of production and consumption that increases human well-being and enhances ecological conditions at the local and global level, in the short and long term.”
As a marketing tool your word “Degrowth” sucks..
In principal…. I don’t disagree with the concept I would rather call it “Sustainability”… where we better meld Economic Social and Environmental together to reduce waste and enhance human flourishing into the future.
There is already plenty of implementation science about sustainability.
I can see this as a baby boomer growing up in post war England with rationing and not much choice of goods and plenty of pollution on land sea and air.
Since then we have increased the global population almost 5 fold using the power of fossil fuels and have globalized trade, cleaned up a lot of our environment, but added a considerable level of economic waste to get there. Its true that capitalism has been good, but has forced a condition of wants over needs where consumerism has become an economic tool that drives this distortion leading to product proliferation and a throw away society leading to waste that we have had to absorb into our economic engine.
The complication is that we are all not at the same point on the prosperity curve, and we have far too many constraints being placed on the natural evolution of human flourishing.
Although I see your issue I see a far different roadmap to get to the end goal… more on this if you want.
I agree that "degrowth" sucks as a marketing strategy. I find I favor "abundance" as a way to change perspectives. But "sustainability" can certainly be used as a way to slip degrowth ideas into an existing conceptual framework.
This is cute and funny, but I just want to note that what T's administration may be ushering in is recession, not degrowth. I think it's important to make that distinction because one of the straw men raised against degrowth is that it favors austerity/scarcity/want/hardship. It doesn't; that's the growth/capitalist economy. (Just to clarify for readers who might not know this distinction.)
Thanks for the comment Arwen. I plan to go into that in detail on Thursday. You are correct, a recession isn't degrowth, but I got the idea for this conversation between the snail and the orange and ran with it.
I want to discuss your concept… Degrowth
“An equitable downscaling of production and consumption that increases human well-being and enhances ecological conditions at the local and global level, in the short and long term.”
As a marketing tool your word “Degrowth” sucks..
In principal…. I don’t disagree with the concept I would rather call it “Sustainability”… where we better meld Economic Social and Environmental together to reduce waste and enhance human flourishing into the future.
There is already plenty of implementation science about sustainability.
I can see this as a baby boomer growing up in post war England with rationing and not much choice of goods and plenty of pollution on land sea and air.
Since then we have increased the global population almost 5 fold using the power of fossil fuels and have globalized trade, cleaned up a lot of our environment, but added a considerable level of economic waste to get there. Its true that capitalism has been good, but has forced a condition of wants over needs where consumerism has become an economic tool that drives this distortion leading to product proliferation and a throw away society leading to waste that we have had to absorb into our economic engine.
The complication is that we are all not at the same point on the prosperity curve, and we have far too many constraints being placed on the natural evolution of human flourishing.
Although I see your issue I see a far different roadmap to get to the end goal… more on this if you want.
I agree that "degrowth" sucks as a marketing strategy. I find I favor "abundance" as a way to change perspectives. But "sustainability" can certainly be used as a way to slip degrowth ideas into an existing conceptual framework.
Capitalism hasn't been good 🤦♀️🤡