Perhaps we should treat them like baby goats? Not the bucket part, but the castration part. At least half of them, selected at random. Total number selected so as to cause a steady decline in population, until we hit sustainable levels.
I used to enjoy demonstrating my elastrator to young men. Inevitable cringes!
I managed to sell my bucklings, mostly to people who ate them, but occasionally to those who would love them as a pet. If they're disbudded and castrated, they are more docile than does.
No impact of the food supply which is supporting population growth very well.
Improved Prosperity is needed to support the family unit in the west.
We do this by…
The reindustrialization of the west will improve male job opportunities.
Immigration must cease in the west to provide improved employment opportunities.
The family unit is needed with men and women to ensure children grow up stable.. most of the black community suffers from a lack of fathers in the mix.
Improved prosperity in the rest will reduce the population rate..
Before we kill off the normal males lets prune the queers and criminals
Anything about degrowth and planned social outcome is very unacceptable.
Nigel, if you are a real person, degrowth is on its way, like it or not. Your belief or delusion that there is an endless supply of "stuff" on the planet to keep using and building and developing and destroying to bolster the need of infinite growth, is finally being recognized by many as the fallacy it's always been. The only question that remains is how rapidly or painfully this process plays out... and then of course, what lies beyond.
I understand the concepts and constructs but not some of the issues.
We are a long way from major shortages and we can use technology to conserve where needed.
Of course we will need non global circular economies and will have to face down the social issue of needs versus wants and the throw away society. But these are well within our capability and implementation timeframes.
If we adopt the solutions I have outlined we can move through any issues very easily.
You will have to talk specifics to even come close to making any discussion worthwhile for your degrowth argument to work
Many key materials are either recyclable or have very long usage windows.
If you'd like to explore Systems Biology, you might see the world through a very different lens. This isn't a "humans only planet" with stores of resources for us to use. We are as dependent upon the web of life as any other species. The last 200 years are the wild outlier in human existence brought about by the exploitation of fossil fuels. The consumption of the planet this has brought about is totally unsustainable for biological processes to continue - regardless of any miracle new fuel sources or technological advances. Every species that has ever exploded and surpassed their carrying capacity has suffered a drastic decline to restore balance of the entire system of life. Regardless of our arrogance or self-delusion of human exceptionalism, we are no different.
First I am not big on accepting wild theories or models that keep giving bad answers.. we have had enough of that with climate change that is clearly a non-issue and mostly natural change that is mostly in our favor.
Our biggest skill as humans is adaption using technology and not being over dependent on just biological adaption which is what animals are faced with when their environment changes. The big positive game changer was the use of Fossil fuels.
Sure… we have made mistakes and are still making them…. but we are making good progress on getting it right with our environments.
Are you saying for humans its terminal?... which I don’t accept…. or are you suggesting some mild modification in our civilization as I have explained already?
"... but we are making good progress on getting it right with our environments" is one of many statements you've made that are just not true. They sound good so as to make yourself feel better but that doesn't make them so. I get that you don't want to face the reality of what's happening - who does? Still we need to be honest about the future. As I said, read up on Systems Biology and the concept of overshoot and you may find a different way of seeing. We have and are consuming far beyond our sustainable share as a species - of that there is no doubt - and we have shown zero ability to decrease that consumption with a socioeconomic mandate that demands that consumption increase forever
Look I don’t want to be difficult but you keep repeating broad and general statements based on only theories not supported by facts..
Please provide facts that we are in a sustainability crisis..
Here are mine….
The human race population has increased 5 times since I was born and in that same timeframe we have reduced poverty by a factor of 4 and our technologies have reduced infant mortality rates and life spans have increased by 25% in almost one generation.
Our food supply assisted by CO2 and Fossil fuels has increased its safety margin even with the massive growth in the population
On all metrics the slight increase in global temperature and increase in CO2 is not causing any adverse weather trends but it is improving both growing seasons and crop growth.
Reduction of deaths due pollution is a work in progress but has improved in the last 30 years in emerging economies due to the adoption of moving from wood to fossil fuels, and the final solution is nuclear and the mid term use of the cleanest sources of fossil fuels.
Mortality due to climate related issues has improved by 95% in the last century
Deaths due to wars have declined.
Loss of global natural habitat has been halted
Deserts are receding
Bio-diversity is increasing with the lowest level of extinction rates in 300 years.
Look we do have some challenges and things we should improve and adapt too but tell me what you are concerned about that constitutes a terminal crisis?
Perhaps we should treat them like baby goats? Not the bucket part, but the castration part. At least half of them, selected at random. Total number selected so as to cause a steady decline in population, until we hit sustainable levels.
I used to enjoy demonstrating my elastrator to young men. Inevitable cringes!
I managed to sell my bucklings, mostly to people who ate them, but occasionally to those who would love them as a pet. If they're disbudded and castrated, they are more docile than does.
What a load of nonsense!
Some gross assumption adjustments needed…..
First Climate change is not an emergency.
No impact of the food supply which is supporting population growth very well.
Improved Prosperity is needed to support the family unit in the west.
We do this by…
The reindustrialization of the west will improve male job opportunities.
Immigration must cease in the west to provide improved employment opportunities.
The family unit is needed with men and women to ensure children grow up stable.. most of the black community suffers from a lack of fathers in the mix.
Improved prosperity in the rest will reduce the population rate..
Before we kill off the normal males lets prune the queers and criminals
Anything about degrowth and planned social outcome is very unacceptable.
Yes, you are.
Why do you pollute substacks that you disagree with? I see you popping up all over progressive substacks, always with negativity.
Not getting enough attention at home? Think about that. Take all the time you need.
Nigel, if you are a real person, degrowth is on its way, like it or not. Your belief or delusion that there is an endless supply of "stuff" on the planet to keep using and building and developing and destroying to bolster the need of infinite growth, is finally being recognized by many as the fallacy it's always been. The only question that remains is how rapidly or painfully this process plays out... and then of course, what lies beyond.
I understand the concepts and constructs but not some of the issues.
We are a long way from major shortages and we can use technology to conserve where needed.
Of course we will need non global circular economies and will have to face down the social issue of needs versus wants and the throw away society. But these are well within our capability and implementation timeframes.
If we adopt the solutions I have outlined we can move through any issues very easily.
You will have to talk specifics to even come close to making any discussion worthwhile for your degrowth argument to work
Many key materials are either recyclable or have very long usage windows.
I can get into specifics if you want.
If you'd like to explore Systems Biology, you might see the world through a very different lens. This isn't a "humans only planet" with stores of resources for us to use. We are as dependent upon the web of life as any other species. The last 200 years are the wild outlier in human existence brought about by the exploitation of fossil fuels. The consumption of the planet this has brought about is totally unsustainable for biological processes to continue - regardless of any miracle new fuel sources or technological advances. Every species that has ever exploded and surpassed their carrying capacity has suffered a drastic decline to restore balance of the entire system of life. Regardless of our arrogance or self-delusion of human exceptionalism, we are no different.
First I am not big on accepting wild theories or models that keep giving bad answers.. we have had enough of that with climate change that is clearly a non-issue and mostly natural change that is mostly in our favor.
Our biggest skill as humans is adaption using technology and not being over dependent on just biological adaption which is what animals are faced with when their environment changes. The big positive game changer was the use of Fossil fuels.
Sure… we have made mistakes and are still making them…. but we are making good progress on getting it right with our environments.
Are you saying for humans its terminal?... which I don’t accept…. or are you suggesting some mild modification in our civilization as I have explained already?
"... but we are making good progress on getting it right with our environments" is one of many statements you've made that are just not true. They sound good so as to make yourself feel better but that doesn't make them so. I get that you don't want to face the reality of what's happening - who does? Still we need to be honest about the future. As I said, read up on Systems Biology and the concept of overshoot and you may find a different way of seeing. We have and are consuming far beyond our sustainable share as a species - of that there is no doubt - and we have shown zero ability to decrease that consumption with a socioeconomic mandate that demands that consumption increase forever
Look I don’t want to be difficult but you keep repeating broad and general statements based on only theories not supported by facts..
Please provide facts that we are in a sustainability crisis..
Here are mine….
The human race population has increased 5 times since I was born and in that same timeframe we have reduced poverty by a factor of 4 and our technologies have reduced infant mortality rates and life spans have increased by 25% in almost one generation.
Our food supply assisted by CO2 and Fossil fuels has increased its safety margin even with the massive growth in the population
On all metrics the slight increase in global temperature and increase in CO2 is not causing any adverse weather trends but it is improving both growing seasons and crop growth.
Reduction of deaths due pollution is a work in progress but has improved in the last 30 years in emerging economies due to the adoption of moving from wood to fossil fuels, and the final solution is nuclear and the mid term use of the cleanest sources of fossil fuels.
Mortality due to climate related issues has improved by 95% in the last century
Deaths due to wars have declined.
Loss of global natural habitat has been halted
Deserts are receding
Bio-diversity is increasing with the lowest level of extinction rates in 300 years.
Look we do have some challenges and things we should improve and adapt too but tell me what you are concerned about that constitutes a terminal crisis?
Substack seriously needs a "laughing face" icon vote.